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Rogin the Armchair fan
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I've not seen any of this game yet, I'm looking forward to the highlights on MOTD. From what Sir Alex Ferguson's saying to the bbc, though, here , it sounds as though Portsmouth completely kicked United's players off the park from the first to the last, and the referee was powerless to stop them.

It's a shame if football's gone back to the brutal days of the 1960s.

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i watched it, (or at least had half an eye on it). it didnt seem a particulary dirty or rough game. ronaldo drew a few fouls but then he often does
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Ha ha ha! Excellent, Rogin!
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I thought Harry Redknapp was one of the managers who refused to talk to the BBC post match? Has he had a sudden change of heart, or did I just imagine that?

I'm surprised United aren't making more of a fuss about the penalty awarded against them.

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Rogin the Armchair fan
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Well I must admit, the only two blatant fouls I saw in the highlights package were the obvious one by the United 'keeper that led to the penalty, and a dreadful studs-up slide in "tackle" by Rooney in the first half that attracted a yellow card but actually should have been a red.

Obviously the evil bbc has edited this game in such a way that those who were actually at the match would not recognise, Sir Alex included.

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I think United were slightly hard-done by for the Ronaldo non-pen and the Portsmouth actual one.

Which a) only makes it funnier and b) doesn't stop Ferguson sounding like the pathetic embittered overgrown child that he's always been.

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United will go out to the first strong team they face in the Champions' League.
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Yeah, the two penalty incidents were a bit harsh, but Rooney's studs-up dive was worse than anything that Ronaldo suffered. Queiroz referencing Martin Taylor was a bit low, as well.
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Nathan HelenaHandcart
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Agreed E10 - Baros was lucky, and I can't get my head around a player who'd rather get a penalty when one on one than try and score.
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05 Jan 2005

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Even from 18 yards back, the linesman would surely have seen it was over the line but he appeared to have his head down as he sprinted back to make up ground. Spurs manager Martin Jol compared this to the 1966 controversy. Nowhere near, that was debatable.

Opposite number Ferguson said these things tend to even themselves out in football.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article210848.ece

Sunday, 14 November, 2004

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson said his team were rightly awarded a penalty at Newcastle.

"Paul Scholes was brought down," said Ferguson, who felt his team should have been awarded at least one spot kick against Manchester City last week.

"But what I said before the game is right, the breaks even themselves out over a season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4006361.stm
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It wasn't a dirty game at all. And that includes the Rooney challenge. Rooney went for the ball while no Portsmouth player was in possession of it. By the time Rooney arrived, the ball was long gone. Terrible timing, but it wasn't even a tackle.

The sending off was pure comedy. I don't think I've ever seen a player being sent off four "bringing down" his opponent with his head.

Still, eh? Nobody ever gets a penalty at Old Trafford.

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E10 spot on, there.
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As I've said on here many times before it doesn't matter if the player actually contacts the player he fouls, or which part of his anatomy he does or doesn't contact him with. If the fouling player rushes headlong into a space from where the fouled player can only escape collision by either losing his balance or disadvantaging himself significantly then that's a foul. Attacking players should not have to wait and stand still until the fouling player smashes them in the face or breaks their leg to get a decision.
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I'll remember that next time there's debate over CRonaldo going down too easily.
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Absolutely. The "going down too easily" comment should really only be applied as a euphemism for those situations where a player, if you like, proactively launches himself into mid-air when an opposition player is adjacent to him, but not actually impeding him. Like this for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ochcQ56Es

If you're reactively getting out of the way of someone who is unfairly impeding your progress that should draw the sanction whether you get hit or not. I think the player in this incident has more of a case, though he does make the most of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1I3Ve0hC7I

I think the ref adjudged he had started taking off regardless of whether or not he was actually impeded.

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