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Rogin the Armchair fan
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I don't think the Champions League is well-served, any longer, by this rule. There's too much talk, from players, managers and fans alike, about the importance of "the away goal", both scoring one and - more often - not conceding one at home. I know the rule was introduced to remove the fear of away teams not attacking and playing for a 0-0, but I think the rule has become part of the psyche of the competition so much now that it's actually encouraging the negative play it was originally brought in to prevent. I think its abolition might encourage sides going out to attack, home and away, in all games, more than they do now, not less.

Too many games, for my liking, are not played as they should be. Teams whose natural game is going for the jugular from the outset - like Manchester United and Arsenal - try to play a cagey, stifled game, too scared to risk players into attack, thus denying the fans who've turned up to see them play exactly the football they've paid to see. And too many sides also who in a tie played at a neutral venue would have to risk coming out and 'going for it' at home don't bother, happy to settle for a stalemate.

The whole "away goals" concept, I feel, creates a fear among coaches and players that shouldn't need to be there. After all, most two-legged ties are still settled by the simple matter of who scores the most goals. Why not allow all of them to? It's amazing to think that Liverpool's win over Inter last night is now being primarily analysed along the lines of "and Inter didn't get the away goal; if Liverpool can hold on at the back in the San Siro and grab one on the break, Inter will have to beat Reina 4 times".

I say no. It's nonsense that if both sides had scored early goals last night, say before Materazzi's sending-off, and then Liverpool had gone on to win 3-1, that the result would now be being treated as "Ooh, well, Inter got the away goal, and Liverpool will do very well to stop them scoring twice in the San Siro and winning".

It clearly affects the way the second leg is going to be played out - indeed, affected from the start the way the first leg was played out - and I think it's time to end it. Play football for 180 minutes and see who scores the most goals. With the "fear" of the away goal removed, I think teams would play their natural game from the outset, and - demonstrably - the more attacking team (ie the one that scored most) would win every game.

[ 20.02.2008, 18:50: Message edited by: Rogin the Armchair fan ]

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Dire Straits.
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Maybe it's up to the managers to approach the away games with better tactics. The rule has been in place for ages and all teams start on a level playing field. If we only wanted to see attacking flair football we should get rid of the offside rule and put a maximum of three defenders on.

I like the way the game is thanks. Tactics are and always will be a part of it.

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cosa arancione calda
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And penalties. Any tournament won on penalties after a drawn final isn't really a win. It's a draw.
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erwin
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I think it's an exellent rule.

FC Porto lost 0-1 at Schalke and the return leg will be a real nailbiter anyway, but even more so because of the rule - Schalke could come out of the traps and score quickly, then Porto will need 3. Or Porto will score and won't be able to play for the draw and penalties because with the slightest slip, Kuranyi whips one in, and Porto will have to get another two.

I'm all for it, me.

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Rogin, I'm with you. Watched Liverpool yesterday and Arsenal this morning ans was just thinking exactly the same thing.

And also when did managers start this shirt and tie thing. It just looks silly under an anorak. [I know it's been about for a while].

And don't start me on the not-been-allowed-wear-strips. That is absolute Bollocks isn't it.

And why can't you have people in the first few rows again?

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Rory Bunk
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I think the away goals rule is excellent. With one goal you can go from being in front to being ahead, skipping the tie altogether.

You still win the ties by scoring more goals. I think people just start over-playing the importance of the rule when they expect the contest to finish tied on goals.

By having the rule you limit the number of possible tied results. This means you limit the number of penalty shootouts. Which are shit.

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I agree with Rogin on this one, it's not only a shit idea because of the importance of not conceding in the home leg, but also seems to have certain teams who play the first leg away taking the attitude that if they lose but are able to nick one on the break, that's a good result for them - and it shouldn't be.

Also, continuing to count them after extra time (if necessary) has been played at the end of the second leg is ridiculous - one team gets half an hour longer in which to score an away goal, which can't be fair. If extra time is supposed to be a tie-breaker, then at least make the rules as even as possible (never entirely possible given that one team, of course, will be playing the extra half hour in front of their home fans).

The Libertadores never had away goals until a couple of years ago. CONMEBOL seemed to think that introducing them was bringing the South American game forward in some way. Because of course it needs it, doesn't it...

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Inca
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In 2003, the Galaxy were playing the San Jose Earthquakes in the MLS playoffs, a home-and-away tie. At home, the Gs won 2-0, and took a 2-0 lead in San Jose. The Quakes then scored 4 in response. MLS' rules counted the aggregate score, and not away goals, so on to extra time, where San Jose scored a 5th goal to win the series.

Ever since then, I'm only for away goals being counted.

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Rory Bunk
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Ouch, Inca. That would hurt.
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