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Spearmint Rhino
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If you saw someone wearing a voluminous navy blue top (my immediate thought was that it was an American Football one, but it might have been Ice Hockey), with a huge number 17 on the front and back, and the name 'DRIVER' across the shoulderblades... what would it mean to you?
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It sounds like an ice hockey top, Rhino - almost definitely so if it's long-sleeved.

The thing is, there's a certain amount of cross-pollenation with merchandise these days - as I'm sure you can imagine - and you'll get American Football teams selling 'ice hockey (style)' shirts.

As for the name on the back, I can't recall a player of that name currently playing in the NHL, so it's most likely the wearer's own name, since you can get them customised.

(I'm one of the few ice-hockey-heads on OTF, but I think the main ones are Reed for the (North American) NHL and Croute for the European (particularly Swiss) scenes.)

For reference, here I am - in my Chicago Blackhawks third sweater (that's what they're properly known as) - back in 2000:

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By the way - the navy blue thing might be a 'reference' to the Buffalo Sabres ...who just got knocked out of the playoffs ha ha ha ha!!!

Bit of self-righteous triv, here: One of the main reasons that I always hated soccer is that the players seemed so soft relative to other sports. For instance, the NHL season is 82 games long! That's big, nasty blokes kicking the shit out of each other at least twice a week for more than 6 months. ....And then - if you've been good enough, you qualify for the knockout stages, which are four rounds of best-of-7 play against another team 'in your half' of the league. Thus, the maximum number of games a team/player could theoretically play in a year is 110!!! ...and the football players complain about their season being too long and hard!

There is a non-official thing called the 'iron man' award (or streak or stretch) which is basically the player who has played in the most consecutive games without missing one. Some players make it to 500 or 600 games played without missing one! ...And I could regale you with some horrible stories about injuries and playing through them!

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It was long-sleeved.

The wearer was Meat Loaf, onstage at Wembley last night.

I used to wear ice hockey shirts, during my mid-90s hip hop phase. I had an LA Kings one and a Philadelphia Flyers one, along with some band merchandise efforts for Onyx and Warren G. They were prickly and sweaty as fuck. I dunno what I was thinking.

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quote:
I dunno what I was thinking.
Philadelphia Flyers. I concur.
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Bruce Driver was a defenceman who played in the NHL for more than a decade, mostly with jv's New Jersey Devils (with whom he won a Stanley Cup), but at the end of his career (in the late 90s) with their cross-river rivals the New York Rangers. He was known for having a very hard shot from the point.

The Rangers "third" sweater is navy blue, with a Statue of Liberty head crest and the letters NYR. I don't remember what number Driver wore, but that would be my guess. I would also guess that MeatLoaf got it from Driver.

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Thank you, Ursus!
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If it had a large number on the back and front it wouldn't be a hockey sweater it would be football. Hockey sweaters always have a crest on the front.
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I'd momentarily forgotten UA was a hockey fan too. Dunno how, though - I think I might have even known UA from somewhere else on the web to do with hockey! UA - who is it you support again?

Thanks for that info, too, Ursus. My hockey history is rusty (as you probably know!) so stuff like that I'm pretty useless for.

Oh yeah - if anyone happens to have a Soviet Union 1988 Olympics black sweater, I'd be very interested in acquiring it from them!

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But if the number was on the front as well as the back, wouldn't you think it would be a football jersey? If it was long-sleeved, possibly a throwback?
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Yeah (see my post above.)

I wondered if it might be a Cowboys sweater? Being as Mr Loaf is from that neck of the woods and also "a varsity tackle and a hell of a block." But I can't find anyone on their current roster by that name, anyone in the past you can recall?

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I think UA's answer above seems pretty definitive. It's possibly just a weird replica with number on front and back.
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Hmm, I'm not convinced. Bruce Driver was #33 with the Rangers, and I've yet to see any kind of hockey sweater with large numbers on the front (though the new Sabres uniforms have small ones). The best known current footballing Driver is Donald (Green Bay wrong colour and number, his college play in purple so that's unlikely too). The Bills had a Tony Driver for a couple of years, the colour fits but — again — the number doesn't.

At a stretch the sweater could also be a play on the Meatloaf persona: High school football player + Driver (Paradise By a Dashboard Light "only 17 and barely dressed") = Meatloaf.

Eh? No...? OK.

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I missed the front and back bit, as I am limited to Blackberry this weekend and was (as always) distracted by Clive in his Black Hawks sweater.

Front and back numerals is gridiron.

Possibles: Houston Texans, New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys, San Diego Chargers, Chicago Bears and a number of college teams. 17 is a classic Quarterback number, but none of those teams have had any quarterback named Driver. Nor can I recall any Driver on any of them.

The mystery is alive.

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I love a good mystery. There's a famous Green Bay player called Donald Driver, and he seems to come from Texas and googling suggests his college team might have played in a kind of purply blue, a bit like the Vikings. Can't find what number he wore in college, though, nor any reference to Meat Loaf and Driver ever meeting.
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