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You Are The Ref
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Heh.
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Nathan HelenaHandcart
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All the old trophies won by Wimbledon are now no longer at MK, the club no longer puts those honours in its programme and the club doesn't claim people like Dickie Guy as ex-players.
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quote:
And now they're just ninety minutes from a Wembley final...
True, though Swansea absolutely battered them in the first leg, so there's probably a bit of life left in this tie yet.
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Nathan- see, I'd call them things symbolic as well. So Wimbledon have given away something symbolic and got something symbolic in return. Which is fine, I suppose, but it does mean that the franchise have successfully used the trophies and history of Wimbledon as bargaining chips in their pursuit of respectability and 'normalization'.
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That was a deliberate Hoddle-ism, before anyone starts.
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The Wimbledon club records were physically given over to Merton Council too, I think.
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Personally I reckon WISA and the others should just re-announce the boycott now then. The records were rightfully theirs anyway. Still doesn't change the fact that the MK lot fucked em over big time, and stole their league position.
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Technically they bought their league position, not that that's any better.
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Nathan HelenaHandcart
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I agree; the issue was that MK didn't want to hand them over, and wouldn't stop claiming the history. Now, I'd argue that no-one owns history, so MK can no more claim it than I can. But such debates tend not to play well on the terrace.

So, they had something WISA wanted, and as far as they were concerned, WISA could give something in return, which was calling off the boycott. As sacrifices go, that was something it was worth pretending was important as MK believed WISA was some all-powerful body behind all the anti-MK stuff.

You've got to remember that these people never understood why football fans hated what they represented and in most cases hated them. They weren't football fans in the same way, and so couldn't understand. In their fevered imagination, the reason why songs got sung against them, why people expressed hostility to them everywhere, was because of WISA and AFC Wimbledon fans.

Now, that could go two ways; as a fantasy, it could have been tenderly cared for and grown in strength and power as a lovely warm palliative, or more likely in my view, at some point they'd have realised that it wasn't WISA. As a result, it was felt that until they woke up and realised the truth, WISA had leverage.

The second aspect is that in their quest for legitimacy, their supporters association applied to join the FSF in 2004 and the FSF rejected it for, amongst other reasons, the fact that WISA still had issues* over the fact that MK claimed to have won the 1988 FA Cup and all the other honours.

* sadly, the fact that they're the fucking franchise wasn't enough; there were some from the old supporters club types (old being the operative word) from the old National Federation wing of the FSF who had to be persuaded to back a boycott back in 2002, who didn't think there was anything wrong with it in the first place etc, so some new pressing reason other than 'they're the fucking franchise' had to be minted to block the application, and the one chosen was 'they're claiming something they're not'.

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Buy? Steal? Splitting hairs really, as I'm not sure they paid for it in truth. They certainly removed it; the theft, such as it was, was the FA Commission. We now learn than Steve Stride, the Aston Villa Secretary, who was one of the three members, was lent on by his boss Doug Ellis to back the idea. Cunt.
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They're going to Wembley

Won 5-4 on penalties against Swansea

Who on earth are the people on the pitch, bloody weirdos

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Cunts, the lot of them - especially that wanker who scored the winning pen - he can fuck right off if he thinks he's coming back to us tomorrow.
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sorry but my "live commentary" stopped working when it was 3-2 on pens, who scored the winner..
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Stan Collymore (I think) on radio 5 described Franchise as a "phoenix rising from the ashes", or words to that effect.

While it may be a bit much to expect commentators on national radio to refer to Franchise as a fucking abortion of a club, it would be nice to have some sort of admission that they are not a "real" club, in the proper sense of the word.

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It was Drew Broughton DK - on loan to us until yesterday and rumoured to be coming back tomorrow.
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