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How's The Bairn?
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So why claim I've "made shit up"?

And what of the referees and FA representative? Do you think they have got their rules wrong? Their rules?

You may think that this interpretation of this particular rule is wrong. I might not completely agree with it, but I, and my players, must adhere to it. As I've said, the Laws need to be written more clearly to rid the game of any grey areas, such as this. And, in the meantime, must accept that free kicks are going to be given for such incidents.

Or should I just come to OTF, rather than the FA, for all my information on the Laws of the Game?

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chill out, K. i'll retract my statement that you (and statto) "made shit up" and replace it with "fucked up" if that suits you better.
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What exactly have I made up in this case, by the way?
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I can't see that free kick hit hyypia at all. He moves towards it but he's too slow to make contact, and even if he does make contact with it, the ball is still flying into that corner anyway.

anyway, I keep reading on here how utterly amazing liverpool are, and how much better than man utd they are, and how much stronger they are in all areas of the pitch, and how much better at defending they are, and how much cleverer rafa benitez is, etc, etc, but I can't help but thinking, apart from that hilarious dive by stevie g against sheffield united. Have liverpool managed another away goal, or point?

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i know we haven't managed a home defeat to a team of budgie hearts.
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so that is a no then?
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i dunno i'm too lazy to look it up. but if you look at the fixture lists you'll see why i'm confident the run has to end soon.
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John Giles and Eamon Dunphy were talking on RTE after the Benfica-Man United game about how United were heading in the wrong direction, carrying too many average players, flattering to deceive at the top of the table and hadn't beaten anyone decent, etc etc.

This was all demonstrably true, of course. But then they began going on about how Liverpool were a different kettle of fish altogether -- Benitez had the right idea, he was implementing good strategies, the team was going places fast, they were the real deal, the coming men of the Premiership.

I thought this was bollocks at the time, and the Galatasaray performance and Bolton result have confirmed it. Liverpool's team selection is even more haphazard than Man Utd's, and that's a lot of haphazardness. Benitez doesn't have a proper plan -- he's just throwing a totally different starting eleven out there each week and hoping for the best.

Liverpool have enough good players (particularly in midfield) to ensure that they will always win a certain amount of games in the Premier League no matter how many changes are made to the personnel, but Benitez clearly doesn't have much confidence in most of them, otherwise he wouldn't be dropping four or five people every week. He even discarded Sissoko, the team's best player so far this season, for the Galatasaray game and left him sitting there for 78 minutes while the Turks were walking through the midfield.

They might beat Man Utd in three weeks but it'll hardly prove anything. Both teams are incredibly ordinary.

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"chill out, K. i'll retract my statement that you (and statto) "made shit up" and replace it with "fucked up" if that suits you better."

And what have I "fucked up"? I've gone from recent experience of referees, found the wording in the FA's Laws that explains it, and explained why Halliday would have probably flagged. Fair enough, I've taken the words out of the context that they were originally featured, but the words are still there, and the interpretation of them to give the free kick is, in my view, understandable. Going from the wording and from the interpretations given by the Football Association representatives I've encountered.

Not made anything up, not fucked anything up.

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you did wrong to believe the word of those FA reps, they clearly didn't know their arse from their elbow.

future rule of thumb: if there's no hand on the ball, it's not hand ball.

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And I should believe you over FA reps because?
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Kettle - you may be right that FA reps have told you that's the interpretation by which they adhere.

You were mistaken in the way you expressed yourself earlier in the thread: firstly, to claim that it's in the Laws; and secondly to claim, even insofar as there is something about it in a further publication, that it says explicitly what you claimed for it. "The releasing of the ball from his hands and the kicking of the ball is considered to be a single action" does not automatically imply - "and therefore is deemed to be handling it even when he actually isn't".

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Page 20 of 43 in the Rules:
quote:
Decision 2
The goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball by touching
it with any part of his hand or arms. Possession of the ball includes
the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the ball, but does not include the
circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the ball rebounds
accidentally from the goalkeeper, for example after he has made a
save.

Does this not cover it?
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What is the difference between a deliberate parry and a rebound from a save?
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why would the ball rebound accidentally from the keeper after he's made a save?
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