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Route One Thug
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Wow. A pound a week. Which will no doubt be partly recouped by hiking the cost of merchandise up by 25%, and raising the price of parking by 30%.
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You're right, ROT.

10%? It's almost patronising.

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Which will no doubt be partly recouped by hiking the cost of merchandise up by 25%, and raising the price of parking by 30%.
Yeah, but that's not too unreasonable a trade-off is it? If you're gonna look to shamelessly cash in on anything (and of course in an ideal world you wouldn't do so on anything), then far better to do it on optional extras such as club-shop tat and parking (going by car to a match is rubbish, which is one of the many problems with out-of-town stadia like The Reebok) than the core essentials of actually getting into the ground.

I mean I was never that animated by those campaigns, led by idiots like David Mellor, against kit prices. It was classic complaint against a single tree in the midst of a malevolent wood.

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But that's the thing. The change is so inconsequential that it can easily be recouped by upping the parking to a tenner and having the fans over a barrel in another way - especially as a fan of a club with an out-of-town stadium. I agree that the merchandising side is an unnecessary purchase for most fans, and the rise in such prices wouldn't hurt me, but the parking is a much easier way to exploit the fans of both home and away.

Rather than it being best part of a month's take home pay to your average Boltonian, it's now 3 1/2 weeks' worth. It's hardly worth doing.

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(going by car to a match is rubbish, which is one of the many problems with out-of-town stadia like The Reebok)

But unavoidable for people who live in places where buses are seen once a week.

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Bolton's ground is right next to a train station, which is a great idea.

However no extra trains are laid on for their matches. Remarkably few fans board the train in Bolton for the Reebok stadium, perhaps because they know how hard it is to get on and get away after the match. I think there are two possible trains back to Bolton after an evening game, the first of which leaves 40 minutes after full time, and the second is after midnight.

On the subject of ticket prices, I haven't been to a league game of any description for a few years now, and I used to take in 5-10 a season. I think 15 is too much to pay for lower-division football, and as for 27 or 36 or whatever, I would only pay that for a World Cup match and even then it's far too much. Mind you, Bolton are massively in debt, and are hardly going to become a "global brand" or even a national one. I foresee more fleecing of fans as it's their main source of revenue.

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London apart of course, are many grounds accessible by train/subway/etc. in England? One of the saving graces of DC has always been that there's a Metro stop at RFK Stadium which thousands of people use, while conversely the sheer impossibililty of getting to Giants Stadium by anything other than a car has probably helped kill Metro/RBNY attendance, a problem being corrected by building a commuter rail station right at the site of their new stadium.
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My first visit to the Reebok was a few years ago for a GB/Aus RL Test Match. We went by car and parked in a Reebok allocated parking spot near to the stadium - it took us just under two hours to get out.

I've heard similar stories, too - so exactly why trains aren't used I don't know.

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jefe - many are, many aren't.

Even in London, places like selhurst park are implausibly difficult to get to, whereas Villa Park (train), Old Trafford (tram), Glasgow Rangers (clockwork orange) and others are well connected. For every one that is well connected, there are a handful that are not.

A lot of grounds would benefit from buses with priority lanes so that public transport is incentivised as a way to get there, but unfortunately the road infrastructure is too poor as well.

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Even in London, places like selhurst park are implausibly difficult to get to
I see this ol' bollocks is trotted out again. There are three main-line stations within 15 minutes walk of Selhurst - Selhurst itself, Thornton Heath and Norwood Junction. Or in other words, one corner of the ground doesn't have its own station.

I'll confess that some might find this difficult to understand, what with these not being Underground stations and therefore not in pretty colours. But I'm not sure people like that should really be allowed out on their own, anyway.

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It is in London. 15 mins walk from a train station in London is ridiculous. Even shoreditch is easier to get to than that, and shoreditch may as well be on the bloody moon.

But thank-you for your condescending tone all the same Zombie.

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Manchester United fans are being asked by leaders of a campaign to cut prices at their away games not to buy anything inside Craven Cottage on Saturday.

United fans are being charged 45 by Fulham for their visit to London while Manchester City fans paid only 25.

But the Old Trafford club's supporters, used to being "ripped off" by other teams, have decided enough is enough.

Protest organiser Pete Boyle said: "We are not picking on Fulham, it happens everywhere and we're fed up with it."

Boyle wants fans to refrain from buying food, drink, programmes or any other merchandise in the ground. The protest's objectives have been posted on Manchester United websites and leaflets will be distributed before kick-off.

"If a few thousand Reds don't buy a thing or place any bets maybe we can persuade Fulham to reduce their prices to a reasonable level next season," said Boyle, who attended his first United game in 1977.

The key point here is that rich football club does not equal rich football supporters

Malcolm Clarke
Football Supporters' Federation
"The team we support might be wealthy but it doesn't mean all Manchester United fans are.

"We have to pay inflated prices everywhere. If other clubs cannot fill their grounds with their own fans it's not down to us to balance their books."

Away tickets for this fixture cost 32 last season and 25 the season before.

Boyle, who was ejected from Birmingham City's St Andrews in 2004 for staging a similar protest, stressed that this would be a peaceful boycott.

He added that Fulham were no more guilty of "fleecing" United fans than many other clubs and pointed out that earlier this season Blackburn charged Bolton fans 15 - for a "proper local derby" - but United fans had to pay 36.

A spokesperson for Fulham told BBC Sport: "We set out our ticketing policy at the beginning of the season and made it clear that for Grade A+ matches tickets for home and away supporters in comparable sections of the ground will be 45 for adults, 30 for over-65s and 17-21s and 20 for under-17s."

Fulham's games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United fall into the Grade A+ category at Craven Cottage this season.

The Cottagers have sold 95.5% of their seats and averaged 21,604 fans a game at home fixtures this season; Manchester United average league-leading figures of 99.4% and 75,793.

The Fulham spokesperson added: "Away supporters at Craven Cottage are charged the lowest price band in the stadium. Fulham have complied with the (FA Premier League) rules concerning equality when charging home and away fans."


Fulham are not the only team to raise prices for the visits of Man Utd
But Malcolm Clarke, the chairman of the Football Supporters' Federation, was unimpressed with Fulham's explanation.

"Simply stating that the raised prices are because the match is a higher category game is not excusing the rise - it is just describing the crime," said Clarke.

"The key point here is that rich football club does not equal rich football supporters. The Manchester United fans feel very aggrieved about being repeatedly ripped off, and understandably so. They are hit with these prices every time."

The FSF, a national supporters' organisation of more than 130,000 fans from clubs at every level of the game, is campaigning for a universal away ticket price of 15 for all Premiership games with 10 for concessions.

"The new (media rights) money coming into the Premier League from next season is worth around 30 per admission over three seasons," he said. "They could afford to let fans in for nothing and still be as well off as they are today."

Clarke dismissed suggestions that extra policing or stewarding was the prime reason behind the category system.

It's not a hardship to go without food or drink for a couple of hours but it is a hardship to pay these outrageous prices at every away game

Man Utd fan Pete Boyle
"Fulham have not raised the prices for this game to cover their police costs. But if they are claiming that then they should tell us what that cost is," he said.

"In fact, the most common defence (for different price categories) we are given is that it transfers money from the rich clubs to the poor ones.

"If that is really the case then they should alter the way television money is distributed in the Premier League. They should spread the money out better, not punish supporters."

Boyle is uncertain how successful Saturday's protest will be but claims his conscience will be clearer for having tried to do something to tackle runaway prices.

"I expect some United fans will take advantage of the shorter queues at half-time to get a pie and a cup of tea but at least I will have tried," he said.

"We're just trying to make a point. It's not a hardship to go without food or drink for a couple of hours but it is a hardship to pay these outrageous prices at every away game."

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I've got to walk out to Sixfields tomorrow, as it's impossible to get there by any other means. And my right knee is totally fucked.
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Boyle tried this at St Andrews a couple of years back and got thrown out of the ground.
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