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Hieronymus Bosch
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Keegan did indeed pull the reserve team out of the Pontins League, and as a result players like Darren Huckerby, Alan Thompson and Chris Holland drifted off to other clubs.

He did it because he wanted to spare the St James' Park pitch the additional rigours of six or seven extra matches per season (the rule was that a club had to use its home stadium for at least six reserve-team fixtures each year). Kenny Dalglish brought the reserve team back when he succeeded Keegan as manager.

AIATL, Keegan quit Newcastle at just past the halfway point of the 96/97 season. It's also fairer to say that he had Newcastle playing well in the Premiership for three solid years rather than four months.

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Malcolm. Tottenham are just a slightly upmarket version of Newcastle. If Newcastle are all fur coats and no knickers, Tottenham have the knickers, albeit they are ones you get out of a vending machine on Margate sea front.

Another club obsessed with the notion of losing beautifully, it's ironic that the only trophy they have won in recent times came with the most utilitarian of managers at the helm.

I will say something for Tottenham however. Despite their disdane for the mundane that makes them insane in the membrane, they have managed to develop 1.5 decent central defenders in the 20 years since Graham Roberts and Richard Gough went on to better things. Which is 1.5 more than Newcastle. Or 0.5 less than Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea can put out any time you like.

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All clubs except maybe Man U are selling clubs.

Spurs had a plan to get into the top 4. They treid to buy the best young talented english players and to bring them through togehter as a squad that was good enough to crack the top 4.

For a couple of years it looked like the plan might even work. But the players it relied on weren't quite good enough and didn't improve enough.

The buying policy has also been framed with a view to future market value. Hence the failure to recruit an experienced left winger or centre half of holding midfielder.

The thing with allardyce is that his team suck all the joy out of football. They make going to football about as enjoyable an experience as going to work. This seemed to be OK for Bolton fans as it was the price they were prepared to pay for premiership football. For any fan who actaully wants some entertainment from the game he is anathema.

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Phoebe Disco
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and get in that alan shearer, he'll do it right. He's the new jackie milburn don't you know

And that's why I can't wait for Newcastle to sack Alardarse and appoint Shearer as manager. Especially with the calibre of morons on the phone ins saying that they'll give Shearer a lot more time than Alardarse. In Milburn's managerial career, he averaged less than one win a month.

Why the Geordies want Shearer is another matter. When he ran the club in the late nineties and early part of this decade, they still complained.

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Shearer would be complete madness. Here are 3 reasons.

1. Never go back.

2. His moronic comments as a pundit indicate he has little grasp of the game.

3. he has zero experience and the newcastle job must be about the most difficult in the premiership.

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But he wants it, and has even been taking his coaching badges so that he's allowed to take it, and Mike Ashley seems to be almost crawling to the fans, so if they want him, they've got him.

[ 31.12.2007, 11:46: Message edited by: Phoebe Disco ]

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No Newcastle owner is going to be strong willed enough to go against the prevailing supporter view that Shearer is the man. It's something that Newcastle have to do sooner or later, they need to excise this considerable monkey on their shoulder.

Reminds me a little bit of Marseille in the early part of the decade. The team was toiling as ever and Tapie was back around, sniffing after a role and backed by massive idiot fan support, convinced as they were that Tapie was the man to restore their fortune.

Eventually Dreyfus (I think) bowed to pressure and gave him a Director Of Football role. He confided to close confidants that he was doing this to finally break the Tapie myth and release the huge pressure that came from him being such a looming figure in the background. He was essentially giving him just enough rope to hang himself.

Rightly enough, Tapie blustered away as ever but did nothing tangible but cause more problems and there was little fuss when he left the club a year or 18 months later.

At least they could try and move forward as a club after that. Newcastle will have to do the same with Shearer just so they too can move ultimately forward too - I am assuming that he will fail of course, because EVERYONE fails at Newcastle.

The other problem is that if he takes over on a huge wave of popular support, the fans cannot start moaning after a few games if results and performances remain rubbish. However poor it was, they would have to give him at least 2 seasons.

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Don Malhumorado
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I'm slightly alarmed that Mike Ashley thinks he can win the fans over just by wearing a replica shirt and sitting among the sweaty masses. I'm even more alarmed that the Newcastle fans seem to have gone for it.

Appointing Shearer would be a hilarious move. After Gullit left the club, Steve Clarke was put temporarily in charge for the game against Manchester United. The rumour was that Shearer in fact picked the team as he was close to retirement and the talk of him becoming manager was already gathering pace. Newcastle lost the match 5-1.

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Why are you alarmed EIM? Newcastle fans are on a one-club mission to prove to doubters that football fans are fucking idiots.
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Don Malhumorado
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They do seem to be, don't they?

Present company excepted an all that Wyatt Earp, don't worry.

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I also think that there's a tale in there about the fact that a large proportion of New Labour's leading lights were North Eastern MPs, the hysterical, strategically uncritical boosterism of their constituencies (mirroring that of the toon army) seems to have become the default mode for Labour Party members. Cue discussion of neo-feudalism in the North East and the failure to produce a mercantile middle-class in the 100 years before industrialisation started. But that's for another thread...
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Was it Shearer who said at half-time of the England-Croatia match that, in order to get back into the game, the English players needed to start kicking lumps out of the Croats?
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shearer said that it needed an english player to go flying in with some studs up to intimidate those croats.
after all, croats have never had any one try to kick them around before.
and like all foreigners before them, they don't like it up 'em....

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I can't wait to see Alan Shearer in the dug-out. Partly for the Tyne-Wear derby, but mainly for when it all starts to go really, badly, hilariously wrong, and Shearer reveals himself to be an unutterable cunt in a way that's impossible to ignore.
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Bobby Robson adds to the considerable hubris today echoing the call for more entertaining football from Allardyce. You'd think he'd been around long enough to have the good manners not to undermine a fellow manager in this way, lord knows he knows better than most how it is to be undermined at that club.

Trust more in the midfield flair players says old Bobby. Well, Allardyce might if anyone could find the broadly invisible Emre or spring Joey Barton out of jail. Essentially gibberish rent - a quote advice then.

I read a lot in the broadsheets today about all of this Newcastle malarkey and I'm really surprised that Newcastle folk are obsessing on this style nonsense and not actually making as much of the issues I would have with Allardyce's stewardship - namely the Barton signing that he staked his reputation on and the other substandard acquisitions he has made thus far.

Again, I'm not suggesting he should be sacked on this basis but these are the areas in which he should be answering questions, not the style stuff.

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