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Alania Vladikavkaz Satie
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How on earth can anyone like seagulls? Having been brought up half a mile from the sea and with my GF living on the south coast I despise em. Their even scummier than pigeons. Seagulls as in bird not the team I mean, Brightons my fave away game to attend. Bar none.
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quote:
Rokerites was a London press term and never heard anywhere outside of the media circles.
Well, I was nowt but a lad at the time, but I don't recall any-one cheering "Up the Glaziers!" either. I well remember my astonishment on hearing some old duffer (i.e. some-one who was probably younger than I am now) shouting "Up the P's", as this was the only variant to "Palace" I ever heard. The quite bogus invention of "Eagles" was merely filling a void, not replacing a beloved nickname.


And I firmly refuse to believe that any-one, at any time, ever cheered on "The Biscuitmen". Not even in the 19th century.

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The citizens is the one I always remember hearing for Manchester City, and wondering where/why/how it came in place. Trying to think back, the use of "blues" is about the only other one that is ever used. Hardly an issue in this context, as there is no real nickname as I see it.

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Alania Vladikavkaz Satie
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I was also nowt but a lad back in 1975 when "Fedora clad Malcolm Allisons Crystal Palace team" (more media speak there) arrived at Roker. Alan fuckin Whittle!
Anyway the cries of "Eagles" were impressive, especially when no-one knew where they were coming from (pre-segregation days). "Eagggllleeessss" can be shouted without any moving of lips!!!

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Harry Carpenter
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Man City have sort of become the Blues but I think all supporters and the club should be forced to embrace The Citizens.

I am sure some Reading supporters still use Biscuitmen, even if it may be tongue-in-cheek, they have a fanzine/site called Hob Nob Anyone in tribute. !Royals"? I mean, come on?!

There is a collection of fifties/sixties cigarette cards of teams and their nicknames which should be adopted as the legal gold standard on the issue and no deviation from the moniker used there should be allowed.

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The Colchester United/Wycombe Wanderers rivallry goes back to the 1991-92 season in the conference. The fact that it has survived 'til today when there are few other reasons for the clubs to be rivals is a testimony to how intense it was that season. In a titanic struggle Colchester and Wycombe Wanderers were in a mini-league of their own, finishing 21 points clear of the rest of the table. The U's pipped it on goal difference and were back in the Football League; Wycombe were promoted the following season. The deciding fixture between the teams that season included a late late goal by the Colchester Goalie that proved decisive.

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Other dodgy modern nicknames that should be obliterated; Barcodes/Toon, Baggies, Gooners. absolute crap the lot of them.
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Good shout on Baggies, or even the Boing Boing Baggies - they're the Throstles as far as I'm concerned.
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Re the Throstles/Baggies thing: I think there's room for proper, fan-driven changes like that as opposed to marketing-driven ones.

For example, Cowdenbeath's nickname used to be the rather insipid "Cowden" until the 1990s when the fans dubbed the team "The Blue Brazil" on the grounds that they were having an unexpectedly good season. Soon, fans of other teams were referring to Central Park's finest by that name too, and the club adopted the Blue Brazil as their official nickname.

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Well, there's a lot to be said for that point of view but, well, I don't think that Harry will see it that way, arch-traditionalist that he is.
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So when do we Brighton fans get to call the nickname "Seagulls" a tradition, then?

Excellent explanations of the origins of the rivalry by everyone, by the way, and I'd add to ursus' emphasis on the bank holiday thing as it's continually referred to in terrace chants by both sets of supporters, even though we don't play them on bank holidays much anymore.

What annoys me is people often presume it's more of a rivalry for Brighton than Palace (since it seems to make more sense for us), but that's only marginally the case.

And I'm not rising to the bait from the Palace fan on page 1, you'll note.

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I'll have to ajudicate on a case by case basis and will allow Cowdenbeath but sorry, "Seagulls" is out.
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Are you allowing "Eagles" then, Harry? Because that's a wretched nickname. Crystal Palace have got nothing to do with eagles.
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Do we get an explanation with these verdicts?
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Harry Carpenter
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I am certainly not allowing "Eagles", in fact Palace are having a dozen other offences taken in to consideration and are likely to be closed down as a result.

I might explain the verdicts but it will mainly be down to the capricious whim of the twisted court of Judge Harry.

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