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''Or to put it another way - I said the UK is the nastiest slut in the global economy. To continue the analogy, Newcastle United fans appear to be the dirtiest, most fucked-up, psychologically damaged porn 'actors' who don't mind what you do to them, how many people gangbang them, as long as you all wipe your cocks on the fucking shirt afterwards.''

just out of interest who do you supoort NHH?

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You tell em!
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me and you against the world dogbeak(honourable mentions for Otto & Wyatt)...or if not the world this board...
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quote:
I am smelling the fucking coffee and at the moment it smells fucking great..
its simple really...unlike Liverpool we have an owner who has to date sunk his own money into the club and cleared debts of anywhere in excess of 100 million...the club does not now owe one fucking penny to anyone
unlike Liverpool he is encouraging rather than undermining a manager who has the backing of the fans...
the man also wears the club shirt and buys the fans beer...
what is there not to fucking like...

Fucking hellfire!

If you really think any of the above is a good reason not to have an ISA or similar you are a short-sighted loon.

Learn some lessons from the recent past. The default setting of a football supporter towards a club owner should be watchful suspicion. The default setting of a normal person towards a billionaire should be sceptical mistrust.

Make that a billionaire football club owner who has had no previous interest in your club, times both the above by ten.

Your current owner's set of stunts (the shirt, the away travel, the buying of drinks for everyone in the town, Keegan) should have all the alarm bells ringing at once.

Instead the future relationship between NUFC supporters and Ashley will, I confidently predict, go something like this;

THWACK!

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

THWACK!

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

THWACK!

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

Repeat to fade.

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quote:
just out of interest who do you supoort NHH?
Why does that matter? He's got too many Newcastle fans bang to rights hasn't he?
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Harry...we'll just agree to differ on this one shall we?
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Why does that matter? He's got too many Newcastle fans bang to rights hasn't he?
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so which ones would they be then?

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Nathan HelenaHandcart
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ale - I support AFC Wimbledon, FWIW (which is nothing).

I wasn't suggesting Ashley was ripening you for a profit. The sad truth is that there's not really one to speak of. The problem with Newcastle fans is cultural. You're so bloody serf-like - as long as the Lord comes down from his castle to drink mead with the locals, he's an alright guy. You mention the club being raped by Fat Freddie, which inspired precisly no sustained 'Freddie out' campaign. The person who did the real profiting was Hall, who everyone appeared to love with his Geordie Nation pat on the head for the serfs, who lap it up uncritically.

And here comes Ashley - who I think is in the midst of a mid-life crisis - indulging you all, playing to the gallery, appointing a car crash of a manager and you bloody love it. You appear to love the guy because he's become an adopted fellow traveller after 5 minutes of wearing a shirt and buying a beer. Is everyone in Tyneside that easy?

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So, Newcastle have been bought with no debt. By a bloke who is an over blown shop keeper. Who gives his customers, the supporters, what they want. They wanted a return to the football of the Keegan era.

Fine.

He gets Keegan back.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. If he gives them what they want, then fine. Just a period of fucking silence - say for the next 20 years - would be good, along with a) never coming out with 'everyone's second team' bollocks, and b) never moaning about how they're a big club who deserve better. You've got - it would seem - all you want and all that follows next is what you will have wanted.
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NHH..your choice of club suggests you've learnt the hard way about the relationship between fans and owners and for that I can only sympathise...

and theres much truth in what you say about the docile acceptance of FFS for many years although would draw back from the extreme servant/master analogy...well publicised derogatory comments in 1998 meant he had to leave the club for a few months but his shareholding meant he could never relinquish power...he was chairman by sufferance only for most of his reign and the resigned acceptance of most fans didnt help the club when major decisions were required...

Ashley is a strange case in the context of English football which is probably why there are two incredible extremes...those who support the club against everyone who doesnt...

even the best you (and most other critics...sorry make that all) can come up with is mid-life crisis which is hardly a stinging rebuke or condemnation...at the moment nobody(and nobody means NUFC fans as well as non-NUFC fans) actually know what his motives are but to date hes done little wrong which means that any criticism is subjective and opinionated only with no basis in fact or precedent...

we are happy up here at the moment....not cos we're always happy due to inbred deference to whoever runs the club (Sack The Board has been as popular as Blaydon Races in the 30 odd years Ive been attending games) but because we have a manager the fans trust and an owner who seems prepared to put his own trust (and cash) in the manager...

we are as far removed from Liverpool in this respect as its possible to be..

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as for media coverage...the issue has been well debated elsewhere on this board as to how big a club we are...suffice to say we do not get blanket coverage because the whole national media is at our beck and call....

the club is not setting the agenda rather the media presume we are worthy of front and back page stories as well as 24/7 TV coverage...hell the appointment of our new manager and sacking of the previous one spilled over into two separate threads on here...it obviously matters to a lot of people and not just on Tyneside...

as an example dont think the Jol departure merited the same attention on here despite there being far more regular Spurs posters...

why not exercise your right of silence yourself...

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Liverpool fans coalition planning boycott of sponsors and offical merchandise, etc.
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Is it just me or are some of the people guffawing at the stupid Geordies indulging themselves a bit, when otherwise they would be decrying it as the pernicious effect of Sky "dumbing down" football (for want of a better term)? Maybe we suffered more for it due to the synchronicity of Keegan's first shot at managing, our promotion, our relative success and the rise of the Premier League, but you're a fool if you assume such behaviour is limited to Newcastle.

Every "big" club (and in this wholly arbitrary delineation I'd include almost everyone in the Championship and above, and a handful of clubs in League One, before people start arguing the toss about how "big" Newcastle are) has a minority of these fans that they fucking love to put on tv, that they love to put on the radio.

Why? Because its the perfect representation of what they want football to be like, and it just suits that there's enough people that fulfil it for them. Basically, the cunts they get talking about being a football fan on television and radio are an unrepresentative sample chosen for their absolute fuckwittedness and lack of insight.

They're the same twats that buy into it all and enjoy their tedious war/battle metaphors and big foam hands and music after the goals and all this other bollocks. If I was an uptight purist I'd accuse them of ruining football, but they're not. They're just grossly misunderstanding it, and making it slightly more infuriating for me to watch.

But why, in the case of Newcastle, do people seem to think these shit-headed loudmouth twats are the majority?

Back on topic, I'd like to claim my own personal moral high ground as I'm at least less deluded than the Liverpool fans shouting their traps off in the blogs and such people have been linking to on here - but then of course we know that empty barrels make the most noise.

I know my place. I know exactly how "big" my club is, and I have a reasoned idea of what a successful season would be (finishing where we are now would do me.) I will also wholly acknowledge that there is nothing at all special about Newcastle United Football Club, and I only support them due to a cosmic roll of the dice.

And I certainly know that if you want to fingerpoint a club for getting fucked off it's chairman, we're a weak, weak target. The sun hardly shines out of Ashley's arse, but we're not getting a fraction of the dry bumming that other clubs are getting.

I think I need a lie down.

[ 25.01.2008, 10:52: Message edited by: dogbeak ]

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I reckon Major Eazy is in for a particularly bleak time of it on Monday (page 5).

I wonder if the guy in the picture on that same page was holding up his cheeky crisis protest banner saying "U messed up VIETNAM U messed up IRAQ Don't mess with Scousers by giving RAFA THE SACK!!" at today's final whistle?

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