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ad hoc
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Fuck me.

When I heard that an earthquake had killed people in the Maldives and Indonesia this morning, I thought it must have been a mistake, given the distance between them. Sadly it wasn't. Anybody who was out on a boat anywehere between Sri Lanka and Malaysia will be dead. Fuck me.

[ 26.12.2004, 12:40: Message edited by: ad hoc tepes ]

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What is it with this time of year... There seems to be some sort of natural disaster every Christmas or New Year. Remember the earthquake in Iran last year and that big Fucker in Turkey a couple of years back?

Hope Mr & Mrs Wingco are ok in Oz. My parents are in India at the moment. Looking at the map on the BBC web-site both sets of loved ones should be ok. My heart goes out to all those affected.

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Amazingly, a natural disaster seems to have missed Bangladesh.
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Fucking hell. 8.9?! Every time you go up 0.1 on the Richter scale the damage increases 10 fold. So this thing was 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times more powerful than what hit Kobe in 1995.

There 2,000 dead in Sri Lanka alone... the Tsunami hit loads of countries. I shudder to think how many people have been hit. Have they warned the east coast of Africa? It could still be headed there.

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Hundreds dead in the tourist resorts of Thailand and Malaysia too.
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Buildings in Kuala Lumpur are structurally damaged. (ie, not by waves, but due to the vibrations.) Kuala Lumpur is hundreds of kilometres from the epicentre.
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brian - i think each additional full unit on the richter scale represents a tenfold increase in magnitude, rather than each 10th of a unit. so that would make this quake 100 times more powerful than the 6.9 kobe quake?

it's fucking unbelievable. is there any estimate of how many people would have been at sea in that huge area? is there anything still standing in the northern half of sumatra?

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My best mate's just come home from a year living in Thailand. Timing.

This is such a huge catastrophe that it will, like the Lisbon earthquake which Voltaire wrote about, have philosophical repercussions (especially at a time like this). Theists will see it as force majeure - the fist of God - and disbelievers will see it as disproof. (Well, some of them. Most of us will just see it as one of those things that happens.)

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I’m off to Phuket in two weeks. We SMSed a Thai friend to check that everything was OK. ”We’re OK. Very afraid. Going to the mountains now”
Like the people in the places hit by this don’t have enough to worry about. If there’s a god, he has some god damn explaining to do.

Last week they said that Thai police had found documents belonging to some sought after prick, and these documents dealt with plans for terror strikes on southern Thai tourist resorts, Phuket being one.

I don’t know if I should feel very stupid about this, but I don’t feel a least bit afraid. When the news were on today, all I got was pissed off. Pissed of at how unfair it all is. Not unfair against me and the chances of a cancelled trip, no. It’s not like that’ll make me loose limbs, family members or kill me. No, unfair towards these people. Most of the people killed are poor, like always. I was also pissed on how they covered this story. It’s the same every god damn time. 99% of the news segment focused on the chances of a Swedish tourist being killed in Thailand. It’s almost like they wished they could dig one out for the ”news worthiness”. Thai tourist resorts were hit as well, yes. Several hundred reportedly killed. Meanwhile, they’re saying thousands are killed in Sri Lanka and India but only spent a couple of seconds on this part of the world. God damn c*nts with their angle.

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A good friend of mine died in Phuket earlier this month, having moved there in January. At least I don't have to worry about his well-being at this time.

As for ganja's theological point: do you hold God (if he exists etc) accountable for all the good things that happen as well?

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[qoute]brian - i think each additional full unit on the richter scale represents a tenfold increase in magnitude, rather than each 10th of a unit. so that would make this quake 100 times more powerful than the 6.9 kobe quake?[/quote]

That sounds more plausible.

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it's fucking unbelievable. is there any estimate of how many people would have been at sea in that huge area?
Apparently tsunamis pass under ships at sea completely unnoticed, and increase in size only when they get pushed upwards as they approach the coast. So people in ferries and boats should be allright.

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is there anything still standing in the northern half of sumatra?
Who knows. There don't seem to be any tourist resorts there so the media doesn't seem to care.

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According to the USGS the waves reached as far as Somalia.
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quote:
Voltaire wrote about, have philosophical repercussions (especially at a time like this). Theists will see it as force majeure - the fist of God - and disbelievers will see it as disproof. (Well, some of them. Most of us will just see it as one of those things that happens.)
I wrote a shitload about this at undergrad. Here's my favourite quote:

Are you then sure, the power which could create
The universe and fix the laws of fate,
Could not have found for man a proper place,
But earthquakes must destroy the human race?
Will you thus limit the eternal mind?
Should not our God to mercy be inclined?
Cannot the God direct all nature's course?
Can power be almighty without resource?

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It turns out the tsunamis struck the coasts a few hours after the earthquake, due to the time it takes to travel through the sea. It probably took at least 5 hours to reach India and Sri Lanka. Yet thousands of people are dead there. Japan, Australia, and the US have a Tsunami warning system in place for the Pacific, but nobody seems to give a shit about the Indian Ocean. If those people had been warned they'd have had plenty of time to retreat uphill.

That kind of stuff really annoys me.

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Is it possible that the northern part of Sumatra is so close to the epicentre that the tsunami wasn't able to build up the force it had by the time it reached Thailand or Sri Lanka, etc., and therefore maybe didn't suffer the kind of damage that places farther away did?
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