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Super Sharp Shooter
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I thought the question was reasonable? Make your mind up.
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Sorry G-Man but my question was a genuine. You are a very smug and patronizing fellow.
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G-Man
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It's a reasonable question that was posed in an unreasonable context (in light of mr smith's previous posts). That's why toro didn't answer it. Or he didn't answer it because it was, as you suggested, rhetorical. Either way, he was entitled to give mr smith shirt shrift.

mr smith, and I answered your question. mr smith, you'll find that apart from being smug and patronising, I am also a disgusting apologist for the cover-up of child abuse, apparently. So watch out, I'm pretty much the most evil man on OTF.

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The Batebe of Toro Foundation
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G-Man is entirely right about why I have responded to Mr. Smith in the way I have.

Given the Rufus Wainright comments, I'm now less convinced that he's another poster on a windup. I am more convinced, however, that he's a twat.

Telling someone to fuck off is not useful, intelligent or witty. Nevertheless, fuck off.

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Oh dear, toro. Whatever happened to forgiveness and turning the other cheek?
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Yeah, not very "judge not lest ye be judged" of me, is it?
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What do you think of them, then, toro? The gays?
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Fuckin' disgusting, innit?

Edit: All that gossiping and bwing pop stars, I mean.

[ 01.12.2005, 13:01: Message edited by: y yo soy el toro ]

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Was that a serious question, Wictred, or are you just joining in the lighthearted tone of this thread?
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"Bwing" is a nicely enigmatic typo, isn't it?

I'm going to leave it like that, actually.

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Semi-serious. I was slightly surprised to see toro defending that "Love the sin, hate the sinner" stuff (or whichever way round it is). Probably, that was just because he objected to the Rhino's combative approach to that discussion--but I do want to tease him out on this, yeah.

Because I'm basically 100% with SR that "hate the sin, love the sinner" is "not fucking good enough", and surely no right-thinking person could disagree?

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Would you be happier with "hate the belief, tolerate the believer"?
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Yeah. If the belief was actually hateful, that is.
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I'm just trying to work out whether I can see a way of understanding the HTS,LTS thing. And I realised that I can't until I get rid of the word "sin" from it, which just strikes me as a bollocks religious word of no meaning to anyone else.

I'm not sure if I can, actually.

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I would have thought that Toro set out his stall when he started the first thread about what was then the rumoured content of that document a couple months ago.

You might remember it; it ended up with SSS fighting with me.

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