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Lardinho
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Nuclear is good for the environment as a whole because a climate change crisis is far more severe than anything that can come from civil nuclear power generation. Whatever damage is done through throwing waste into the oceans (and the outside chance of a couple of meltdowns) is nothing on a couple of degree temperature increase, melting ice-caps, massively increased flooding in incredibly populated lowlands, the massive migration that would result, increased famine lengths, soil depletion, and so on.

And the comparison between nuclear and energy efficiency is a flawed one. Energy efficiency may be more cost effective, but given that we probably need carbon cuts of 80-90%, energy efficiency on it's own can give nothing like enough benefit, and you need power generation from somewhere, and nuclear, along with tidal barrages, is one of the few potential sources of power that can provide a large percentage of the current energy needs of the country.

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I can't see that nuclear power's "under the radar"
Under the radar, as in they called for a debate and then went ahead with it before there was any kind debate.

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Nuclear is good for the environment as a whole because a climate change crisis is far more severe than anything that can come from civil nuclear power generation.
Climate change is a crisis that will most effect the entire population in the coming century or two. People in the year 2500 will look back at climate change like we look back that the plague, i.e. not at all. But they'll be fucking pissed off at having to look after all the radioactive shit left lying around, taking 100,000 years to decay.

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Energy efficiency may be more cost effective, but given that we probably need carbon cuts of 80-90%, energy efficiency on it's own can give nothing like enough benefit
Tens of millions of people commute to offices every day to sit in front of a PC. There's a huge potential CO2 reduction right there.

Things like passive houses and zero energy buildings are the way to go. They use next to no energy, or are even energy productive. There should be billions invested in that right now, but instead all the money is thrown at the military-industrial complex. As usual.

Nuclear power just prolongs the bullshit and supplements a big electricity grid that will always be driven by fossil fuels. It's another excuse to continue our wasteful lifestyles.

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The thing is, E10, the Morgan manager had to turn to Blair after his first choice, the Barnsley striker Arthur Scargill, turned him down...
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I don't really understand that tony blair appointment. He always struck me as someone who didn't know very much about the outside world, so was able to go about doing things in it without the fear, or caution that a more knowledgeable person might have.

Basically the only insight tony blair can give is into the mind of tony blair, but since he isn't a political leader anymore that's not really of very much use.

That old JP morgan cunt would turn in his grave if he thought that a member of the labour party had anything to do with his bank. It's a sign of how times, and the labour party have changed.

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I wonder if Blair's still a party member. Wouldn't entirely surprise me if he let it lapse.

It's Scargill's birthday today, fact fans. According to a letter in the paper anyhow.

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I doubt they're actually interested in Blair's 'advice' - surely there must be some strategic value in having a former UK prime-minister and all his contacts?

I don't really have a clue what I'm talking about, in case you hadn't noticed.

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JP Morgan was a pragmatic businessman; he wouldn't have any problem having a former Labour PM as an advisor if he was convinced that his firm would profit from the connections and introductions such advisor would facilitate. He made ample use of both US political parties when alive.

It makes a great deal of sense from the bank's point of view, and from Mr. Blair's. It is rather at odds with some core principles of socialism, but one wonders if Tony ever believed in those.

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Nathan HelenaHandcart
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Hatton speaks:

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Bona Fide
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* Tough justice for feral thugs
* Discipline at school & home
* More cops on the street
* Gravy in southern chippies

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I see babies are to be assigned a "Unique Learner Number" for their education. Another backdoor way of getting ID Cards in, one would suppose. No ULN, no Uni entry. Prove it? Here's my ULN card!
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Antonio Gramsci
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Don't think so, Eggs. By the looks of it, there's no physical card. It's an ID number that will is attached to students' school admininstrative records. More than anything it's a tool for researchers (like me) who want to conduct longitudinal studies of students to look at determinants of success and the long-range implications of various policy interventions. A few Canadian provinces have them - there have been no incidents that I'm aware of where this caused a privacy issue.

The UK has a number of strenghts in educational research, but national longitudinal studies ain't one of 'em. I assume this is an attempt to redress that balance.

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Kids have a number on their birth certificate. If having a number assigned is so important, why not use this?

And how long before this becomes a "student card" etc etc. Crap like this is not on.

Or indeed goes missing like everything else seems to have done.

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Here's the list of those who voted for and against. It looks like the usual suspects in the list of Noes.
yep..my local new labour cunt is on there..

oh for a new government that will promise to jail the crooks behind the PFI nonsense

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If they have a number on their birth certificate, and schools were to collect this information at registration, then they could by used as a student number, certainly. But then you'd have the problem of how to issue numbers to immigrants.

And actually, the use of numbers is - over here anyway - the way to STOP identity theft. Once the number is assigned, researchers like me can see all the data associated with a number EXCEPT anything that might identify the individual (name, address, etc.), which is suppressed. So the stuff with names on never leaves the database, while the research variables can be disseminated pretty widely. Win-win.

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So the stuff with names on never leaves the database
That's the bit we have trouble with over here.
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