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Reed
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That's a rather broad brush.

Napoleon Dynamite was an OTT catoony character.

The kid in Juno was much more realistic and not nearly as much of a total outcast freak. I knew guys in school who ran cross country who were like him - super skinny and a bit awkward in their own body. But he wasn't a delusional weirdo that went on about ligers and becoming a cage fighter.

The kid in Little Miss Sunshine wasn't just "socially awkward." He was downright disturbed.

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Reed, I wasn't referring to Juno there (which I've yet to see), just talking about some of the recent movies in the genre.
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I can't really see what's not to like about Juno. I don't think it's going to rock anyone's world but the dialogue is authentically supra-realistic, rather in the way it is in Deadwood, (but more cute) and very funny. The casting is strong throughout, and I've a soft spot for The Moldy Peaches who provided most of the soundtrack (rather scarily I had more songs on my iPod from this film before the fact, than any other I can think of.) Most of all I want to adopt Ellen Page please.

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Felicity, I guess so
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I want to adopt Ellen Page

Is that some sort of euphemism?

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Most of all I want to adopt Ellen Page please.

She's 21!

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I know. Pity.
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"Speaking of movies about American HS life, I just saw Rocket Science. Good flick, focused on debate teams. It's part of a wide recent current that kind of glorifies socially inept and geeky teenagers (Napoleon Dynamite, Little Miss Sunshine -the older brother with speech issues-)"

I saw this last night. I thought it was ok, but tried too hard to be "quirky," at times. Excellent application of Violent Femmes, however.

I wouldn't include Little Miss Sunshine in that group, but there does appear to be an emerging genre of indy (or indyesque) "awkward teenager" films. I'd also ad "The Squid and the Whale."

It's at risk of vearing into cliche and irony-for-its-own sake, but it's an improvement over the teen films of the 1980s which always posed stereotypes as archetypes - the cheerleaders, the jocks, etc. Rocket Science and Juno are much more "accurate."

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Maybe these movies are the response to the John Hughes movies--kids who grew up watching them and thinking, "Hey, what about us?" are now the ones who make the movies.
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There's also Thumbsucker and, to some extent, The Chumscrubber.
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"Driving Lessons" was also good, it's a British one that's kind of reminiscent of Harold and Maude but more low-key. The "foreign" teen movies don't go as much for the quirky angle.

Good points Reed, Coffy.

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Maybe not exactly the same, but there was Tadpole about 4 or 5 years ago, about a private school kid that falls in love with his stepmom. It seemed to wear its Rushmore influence on its sleeve.
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I liked Driving Lessons.

Chumscrubber is part of a further sub-genre of new teen films of "dark stuff happening just below the surface of seemingly perfect suburbia" It also includes Alpha Dog, Brick, Pretty Persuasion and, to some extent American Beauty although each of those is also connected to other genres - true crime, neo noir, Lolitaesque and midlife crisis, respectively.

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Tadpole was much, much better than Rushmore. Rushmore has all that annoying Wes Anderson BS. Tadpole was much sweeter and the characters weren't all caricatures.
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quote:
Chumscrubber is part of a further sub-genre of new teen films of "dark stuff happening just below the surface of seemingly perfect suburbia"
they sound a bit like the old teen films
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Saw Juno a couple of days ago, i have a question, do 16 year old Amreicans really talk like that?
Juno started to annoy me after about 15 minutes

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