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Murray Mexted
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Houllier.
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Isn't it de rigeur to offer up the name of Phillipe Troussier whenever any international coaching job comes up, especially among the weaker nations?
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Would Daum be acceptable after that whole cocaine scandal from a few years ago?
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Hahaha, there's a bloke called Ede Geyer.
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It's not pronounced "gayer".
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Deep down, Ottmar knows he just doesn't have the proper kitchen skills to be the next Mannschaft Teamchef.

Wenger is reportedly an oenophile, is he being considered as Teamsommelier?

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Probably not, but try tell this to Mayer-Vorfelder.

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Deep down, Ottmar knows he just doesn't have the proper kitchen skills to be the next Mannschaft Teamchef.

Wenger is reportedly an oenophile, is he being considered as Teamsommelier?

What does all that mean? Has Wegner got some strange sexual perversion which precludes him from coaching a national side?
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It's quite telling for the state of British savoir vivre that they fenced in the meaning of the French "chef" for kitchen use only. Of of the French leadership in all other areas.

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It's actually just as much of a French take on the term "chef". While it indeed means "leader", it specifically designates the chef de cuisine when formally used as a title, as was the case in the German chart posted here. In other words, the title of chef is also fenced in in formal French.

PS: is there an actual English term for "savoir vivre"?

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Well it's not really fenced in in French, is it. According to my memory, it also has professional and expecially military meanings. A chef d'atelier, a chef d'equipe or a chef d'entreprise have nothing to do with cooking.

It seems to me like something you English had to learn when the Normans came. You had your swine, but the French gave you pork. You had your cows, but the French gave you beef, you had your kitchen, but the French gave you the chefs.

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I haven't checked my ID batteries for a while, but for what it's worth: chef = chief = boss = supervisor.

In any case, the next German coach will probably have the qualifications to be titled "Bundestrainer", instead of the deignation "Teamchef" which was invented specifically for Tante Käthe.

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The chart did not say "teamchefd'atelier" or "teamchefd'entreprise", it said teamchef, which comes across as "team cook". "Chef" does mean boss, but this particular meaning it is a bit too casual to be used in formal way. "Directeur" or "président" would be far more likely to be used in that context. "Chef de cuisine" is the most direct interpretation of "chef".

Take it from a native French speaker, as opposed to a dictionnary, which won't convey the nuances of the language.

PS: i am sure that your French is much better than my German

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see?

It's not a battle of the cooks, for all I remember

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