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jason voorhees
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My wife's cousins are both giant Estudiantes fans (literally and figuratively. Their combined weight is probably close to 747 - as in the plane, not the pounds.) I think they're black and gold, but they may be blue. They're one of those teams who chokes in the end. In 2004 they just choked against Real. Or Barça.

They're both huge Pau Gasol fans, because he played for Spain and not Barça.

My wife's alkie uncle (who started a fight when he was staying over here when he bought a Heineken for himself and put it in the fridge without telling anybody - and upon it getting drunk he went into a fit about how he wanted to try an American beer [even if it's from Holland] and he was never treated in a more undignified manner) is a huge Atletico Colchonero. He bragged about how he got picked out of the audience to shoot a free throw during halftime and buried it. Ice (and Ron and Coke) in the veins.

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goldstone97
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As for the point about Real Madrid etc, if I remember the original article correctly, the whole point was they would start franchises from scratch to get around the existing federations, not invite existing ones.
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Baseball already is global. Or at least, international.
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Reed, baseball is definitely not global. You were right the second time though.
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the whole point was they would start franchises from scratch to get around the existing federations, not invite existing ones.

ANOTHER invasion and occupation ? Stuff it, Stern. Even if you did go to Rutgers.

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Looks like this is the NBA thread now.

The Mavs are currently in the process of imploding. A very bad proposed trade is stillborn and leaves a third of the roster playing with a knife in the back. Devin Harris has actually been very good this year - health and occasional foul trouble notwithstanding - and the Mavs have handled all the major Western powers very well so far.

I don't see the point of giving up Harris and a bunch of depth (including big man depth) for Kidd with who knows what still left in the tank. It has the sense of a panic move based on LA's steal of Gasol and the Shaq gamble.

Having said all that, it can't stay like this - I don't know how Harris can come back and play 100% when both Stackhouse and Terry have said that Kidd would be a major upgrade. Devean George can fuck off as well - don't whinge about playing time and demand a trade, and two weeks torpedo a move because you're worried about your (worthless) Bird rights.

I hope to God Cuban works this out, and while he's at it, use Keith van Horn's contract to get Mike Miller in here.

I'm still disgusted that the Grizzlies rolled over for LA. They couldn't even make them take Brian Cardinal's contract?

Anyway, apart from my own loyalties, best regular season in years. I've really enjoyed watching some excellent young players - Deron Williams and Chris Paul in particular.

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quote:
I'm still disgusted that the Grizzlies rolled over for LA. They couldn't even make them take Brian Cardinal's contract?
(Looks down and checks fingernails) Yes, terrible deal, wasn't it?
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Heh. Bynum looks really, really good as well, you lucky bastards. It looks like you are set for years and my pre-season predictions about blowing it all up and rebuilding were way offbase.

So, what pictures of Grizzlies top brass did Jerry West put in his safe when he was in Memphis?

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Goldstone, who are the Madrid Monarchs going to play? Only the other four ersatz Euro-franchises?

Do you really think the NBA is going to switch to weekday afternoon games in order to please European television? And if the Madrid Monarchs aren't Real Madrid or Estudiantes, where are they going to play? And why wouldn't the Spanish federation have jurisdiction over a professional basketball team playing in Spain?

And as far as London goes, do you really think that they can sell 15,000 season tickets at the 02 for a season that is more than twice as long as that of any European sport? Just because Kobe shows up on one of the 41 nights?

Not to be harsh, but I'm beginning to question how much you know about European basketball.

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Where did that come from?
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I am not a big fan of gimmick dunks, but Gerald Green's use of a cupcake and candle was pretty clever.
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I think goldstone was just exploring the NBA upsides of the proposition, and wasn't making concrete predictions. Kind of like what I did with the 39th game of the Premiership.

It's worth (and worst) exploring where David Stern is coming from, as to know your enemy is to defeat them.

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Well, that's the best dunk contest I can think of since Vinsanity in 2000.
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Too bad I don't have TNT.

However, I may be in 'Nawlins on Leap Year Day, and I may check out the Hornets vs the Jazz. That may be a historical match; the first-ever New Orleans NBA team against the last-ever New Orleans NBA team.

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JV's right. I'm merely suggesting Stern is a man with a plan and suggesting we might want to see why his marketing wizards put this on the table.

Ursus, though you're free to question my knowledge of European basketball (not sure where I said I had any, mind you), the question about the timing of games was based on a misunderstanding, for which I apologise. I thought you meant the games in Europe would be in the middle of the night to suit American television. Your answer indirectly cleared that up.

But to address the point anyway, whereas currently nobody in Europe plays much for the NBA because of the timing, now there would be games every night in primetime for European television with a local resonance. Isn't that the whole point of the venture? Murdoch's gambled before on commercialising a sport few had much clue would become a global television phenomenon, after all. TV companies gamble (often too much) on far-fetched dreams of the appeal of products (hello, OnDigital) that are unproven frequently.

I honestly don't understand the jurisdiction question -- how would a European federation actually stop the NBA operating a team in their country, given they could find a venue? Would the NBA really be worried about the reaction of FIBA? Surely they have even more power than the Premier League in relation to FIFA, and it's not even clear the latter can stop the former playing games in other territories.

I don't know for certain London could support an NBA team. Equally I doubt you know for sure it couldn't. But I imagine they will do some serious market research before proceeding to get more of a clue than either of us has. I don't think it's crazy for them to explore this from their point of view (and the article actually says they need to do and plan on doing more market research).

I don't know anything about the availability of venues in Madrid. The article mentioned there was a possibility of the construction of further O2 style arenas in Europe. I imagine the NBA sees this as a growing trend they can use in various places.

I'm not sure what you're addressing with the question about who a Madrid team would play. Obviously they would play more games against teams in their European division, and they'd also play other NBA teams just as currently happens with teams divided geographically into divisions. What prompted that question?

Another possibility is that Stern is pursuing this as a way to force the European federations to the table to deal with him, if he can make it at least seem that this is a serious possibility.

Oh, and the NBA Allstar game is an abomination.

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