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Eggchaser
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However, Muralitharan didn't have Glenn McGrath pinning down batsmen at the other end for his entire career (although he did have Vaas).
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Surely you'd have to remove Murali's record against Australia and Warne's against SL to create a fairer comparison, wouldn't you, as Warne never had the problems of bowling against Langer, Hayden, Ponting and Steve Waugh, say?
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There is no way to make a perfect comparison; the point was that 723 Test wickets is a hell of a lot less impressive when you realise that it includes 76 against Bangladesh and 87 against Zimbabwe, against whom Warne took 11 and 6, respectively.

The point re. McGrath is valid, but can work both ways: Murali has had more opportunity to take wickets than Warne because he has played with lesser bowlers. Of course, Murali has also been able to play more games on spin-friendly pitches than Warne.

[ 16.01.2008, 14:02: Message edited by: Raskolnikov ]

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And of course Warne has often been able to bowl with more attacking fields, with batsmen under more pressure because of the success of the Austrlian batsmen.
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Graveney out!

As selector. New board consists of Geoff Miller and Peter Moores, plus "part-time" (whatever that means) selectors James Whitaker and His Majesty the King of Spain.

That's a hell of a rise for Ashley Giles - retired player to England selector in about six months.

Edit: I'd also rather have Warne than Murali in my team, simply because not only is he a world class bowler like Murali, he has the added advantage of also being a decent batsman and a top notch slip fielder.

[ 18.01.2008, 15:34: Message edited by: Eggchaser ]

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Giles is also Warwickshire's Director of Cricket or somesuch, no?

The part-time selectors don't accompany England abroad, which Miller will now be the first selector to do so. Which is probably a bad idea.

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England have arrived in NZ, to the news that Shane Bond has finished his (official) international career. They looked pretty happy about that.

NZ are not taking advantage of the usual playing schedule for teams visiting the end of the earth (welcome to New Zealand, passport please, anything to declare?, heads or tails?, you're batting, all out before the jet lag fades). Instead there are warm-up games, two 20-20's, plenty of one-dayers, and then - almost an afterthought - two tests, well into the rugby season.

The pyjama stuff could go either way (and who really cares?) but England should be too strong in the Tests. Except it'll be raining by then.

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Don't imagine Vettori will have been happy when his board told him they'd fired his only chance of winning a test series in the forseeable future.
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Also, Strauss seems to barely have played any cricket while out there. He made 39 on debut, and he's had two or three T20 knocks, with nothing either awful or spectacular, but that appears to be it.
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Shane Bond is 32 and has played 17 tests. Considering he's been touted as one of the best fast bowlers in the world for close to 10 of those years, that's an astonishingly small amount. And that's not entirely because of injury, either - NZ play an absurdly small amount of test cricket. Given those numbers and Bond's injury record, you can hardly blame him heading off to the ICL to pick up something like the equivalent of four years' salary for a contracted player for a few weeks' work.

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Rain in Hamilton, NZ.

More entertaining than the cricket: Ian Botham is refusing to do TV commentary because the box is high up and swaying in the wind. Wimp.

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It's not the test series yet, so we'll ignore the two pathetic one-day defeats...
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Ah, the true keepers of ther Test flame!
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Has this test series got it's own trophy yet? How about the Ronnie Irani/Roger Twose cup... or the Lever-Chatfield Trophy... or the Chris Read bowled- through-his-legs Shield?
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My mate Peter was in the N.Z. side that won the under 19 World Cup in 2002 - along side Jesse Ryder and Ross Taylor.

Pete is due back in Amsterdam next month,so the boys are looking forward to quizzing him about Ryder. By all accounts there are an awful lot of skeletons in Jesse's cupboard.

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