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Hieronymus Bosch
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There's something you don't see very often -- an eye-catching try by England.

That's the end of Ireland, who will not come back from 13 points down, and of Fast Eddie.

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Hearty congratulations to the entire Welsh contingent, even those who don't like rugby.
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Have you noticed how Liverpool only win the European Cup in years when someone's done the Grand Slam?

France 1977
Wales 1978
France 1981
Scotland 1984
Wales 2005
Wales 2008?

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Can't help but get caught up in the spirit of Welsh rugby when Wales have a good team (when they don't the moaning is unbearable) and they've got a very good team at the moment. Even the line-out was OK today.

The tongueing of Cipriani was very annoying, the wrost example being when he failed to find touch from a penalty (criminal really) and all they said was "England fail to find touch", but every time he did something good they mentioned his name 7 times. He did look very good indeed though.

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Fausto Ptang
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Cheers ursus. Fantastic achievement by us.
Ryan Jones is great isn't he?

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Fausto Ptang
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One draw back was seeing Prince William muscle in on the scene.
But then the crowd did boo him and the players largely ignored him.
Good work.

Let's pick a Lions team as if they were to play next Saturday.

15. Byrne
14. Strettle (Let's pretend he's fit)
13. Shanklin
12. O'Driscoll
11. Williams
10. Cipriani
9. Peel
8. Jones (Captain)
7. Williams
6. White
5. Jones A.W.
4. O'Connell
3. Jenkins
2. Paysyamoneytakesyachoice
1. Sheridan

Cipriani is a joke of course. I'd take Hook and Jones. Wilkinson will get the nod.

Naturally of course this won't happen.

[ 15.03.2008, 21:46: Message edited by: Fausto Ptang ]

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The fawning over Cipriani was a bit much, but he played very well and showed a bit of flair and ambition that England have been desperately short of.

I think the popular myth that England forwards instictively want only to ruck and drive opponents into the ground was exposed today. The likes of Easter, Lipman and Mears have never looked happier than being actually given a bit of a run with ball in hand.

We should try it more often.

Wales, of course, were superb. Congrats to all concerned.

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I thought Eng-Ire was actually a very good, dramatic game, but England's play was strewn with errors that a better team would have punished them for. Too early to start talking of a renaissance of any kind.
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Hieronymus Bosch
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quote:
12. O'Driscoll
Is this a gag? O'Driscoll has been in awful form for at least the past 12 months, probably longer. The point has been reached where his undroppable status is starting to be openly questioned.

It's indicative of France's strength that they came third despite treating the competition as a series of warm-ups to test out their young players and second-stringers. The rugby they played against Scotland and Ireland was the most exhilarating of the tournament.

[ 15.03.2008, 23:15: Message edited by: Hieronymus Bosch ]

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Fausto Ptang
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Well, I was hoping that his talent would be rediscovered if he was playing in a successful team. I reckon it should be Henson really, but that would have made the team have 9 Welsh players (10 if you had Hook or Jones at fly half).
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So it is what you think the Lions would be if picked by a notional coach or what you yourself would pick?

HB beat me to point out that on form O'Driscoll shouldn't be in an Ireland team let alone a Lions. Henson (and the Henson/Shanks combination) cannot be ignored.

I wouldn't go for Peel, Phillips and possibly Reddan had better tournaments from what I saw (Eddie Butler has Blair in his TOTT). My vote would go for Hook over Jones in the interest of forward thinking.

Yesterday was just wonderful, even watching it in a Colchester pub full of English football fans ( though they seemed to appreciate the rugby and Wales' achievements) as opposed to being there like the last time we won the Slam.

[ 17.03.2008, 00:10: Message edited by: Harry Carpenter ]

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Hieronymus Bosch
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I was hoping that his talent would be rediscovered if he was playing in a successful team.

Not a hope, Ptang -- O'Driscoll has been a back issue ever since those two All Blacks assaulted him in the opening minutes of the Lions game in 2005. He'll never get close to his 2001-2003 form again.

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Really? I know there are reservations over his personality, but you don't think the old addage about form being temporary and all that?
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btw what did Cipriani say after the match yesterday? Did I miss him swearing?
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Indeed I did.
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