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ooh aah
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So if someone is sat on the bench for the hairsprays, say Mike Phillips for example, they will be selected, but if Peel leaves to play for Sale, as GIK suggests above, he won't be selected. Hmmm.
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Well, as fucking hopelessly shit as a band of useles cunt bastards Quins are, Gatland should seriously consider Ceri Jones at loosehead. He and the Quins front row took Cardiff's scrum to the fucking cleaners and he put in a phenomenal amount of work around the park.

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So Martyn Williams has been persuaded to come out of retirement. Personally I think we need hime this season, but we've got to be looking for a replacement soon. Gatland thinks Sowden-Taylor is a long term prospect, but he can't get into the Blues team because Martyn Williams is there. Regional rugby was supposed to solve this sort of problem for fuck sake.

Ryan Jones as captain

Wales squad

Backs:
Lee Byrne (Ospreys), Jamie Roberts (Cardiff Blues), Tom James (Cardiff Blues), Mark Jones (Llanelli Scarlets), Shane Williams (Ospreys), Tom Shanklin (Cardiff Blues), Sonny Parker (Ospreys), Gavin Henson (Ospreys), James Hook (Ospreys), Stephen Jones (Llanelli Scarlets), Dwayne Peel (Llanelli Scarlets), Mike Phillips (Ospreys), Gareth Cooper (Gloucester).

Forwards: Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Duncan Jones (Ospreys), Rhys Thomas (Newport Gwent Dragons), Huw Bennett (Ospreys), Matthew Rees (Llanelli Scarlets), Ian Evans (Ospreys), Ian Gough (Ospreys), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Jonathan Thomas (Ospreys), Martyn Williams (Cardiff Blues), Robin Sowden-Taylor (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Delve (Gloucester), Alix Popham (Llanelli Scarlets), Ryan Jones (Ospreys, capt).

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quote:
So Martyn Williams has been persuaded to come out of retirement.
Really? Fuckin' A!
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I'm amazed at the none selection of Sale's Lee Thomas. He's on fire at the moment, a real 'form pick'. People have a pop at Ashton, but my god, thats a really conservative selection. Parker retired in 2006....he's 30....where is Hewitt or Thomas.
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Yeah I agree it is conservative. Now admittedly I haven't seen much of Gloucester this year, but Gareth Cooper?

Maybe Gatland is working on the basis that he'll be able to get a lot more out of the players than Gareth Jenkins ever could. Which is probably a fair assumption.

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Cooper has been a bit part player for much of the season, Glaws preferring Rory Lawson at 9.

He lasted less than an hour against the Ospreys on Saturday, was given a real time of it by Justin Marshall.

His inclusion suggests a shortage of decent 9s....

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I wonder if it will be a case of "Never go back" for Williams. Certainly he's playing well and there's no suggestion of Dallaglio style undermining of Ryan Jones, but will this be a step too far.

No Ceri Jones, good for us, but interestingly Gethin Jenkins, who was destroyed by Mike Ross last weekend, is still there. Ireland could do worse if they want a strong scrummager, a good tackler and a hard worker than to pick Ross. But they'll go with The Bull, no doubt.

I think the problem with regional rugby in Wales is that the Dragons are in danger of becoming the equivalent of Connaught. Paul Turner seems to be bringing through some good young players but, Rhys Thomas aside, the fourth team in the regions is unrepresented.

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Three from 'Tarf, GETTHAFUCKIN!

Cian Healy's going to be a very, very good player.

Ireland squad:
Forwards: Neil Best (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster), Rory Best (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster), Tony Buckley (Shannon/Munster), Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster), Simon Easterby (Llanelli), Jerry Flannery (Shannon/Munster), John Hayes (Bruff/Munster), Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster), Jamie Heaslip (Clontarf/Leinster), Marcus Horan (Shannon/Munster), Bernard Jackman (Clontarf/Leinster), Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Munster), Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster), Johnny O'Connor (Galwegians/Connacht), Mick O'Driscoll (Cork Constitution/Munster), Malcolm O'Kelly (St Mary's College/Leinster), Alan Quinlan (Shannon/Munster), David Wallace (Garryowen/Munster).

Backs: Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster), Girvan Dempsey (Terenure College/Leinster), Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster), Gavin Duffy (Galwegians/Connacht), Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster), Shane Horgan (Boyne/Leinster), Robert Kearney (UCD/Leinster), Geordan Murphy (Leicester), Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster), Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster), Eoin Reddan (Wasps), Jonathan Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster), Peter Stringer (Shannon/Munster), Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster), Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/Ulster)

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No Mike Ross, then.

Still, Gavin Duffy, so a former Quins player gets in there. We could do with him this season at 13, I tell you.

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Peel's "signing" announced by Scarlets, but not by Sale...he's leaving then, probably to Edgeley Park, but until the ink dries...no announcements.

Gatland has already stated he was aware of Peel's negotiations and he will not be impacted by the Welsh based players only ruling.

Again, if it comes off....

Peel, Hodgson, Lamont, Thomas, McAllister, Cueto, Foden.....hee.....although I reckon Foden may find himself at Bath come next season.

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Been really impressed with Bowe this year, but like Wales the slow evolution following a shite World Cup suggests that Irish Rugby is lacking real prospects.

Controlling players by picking from a limited club pool is fine, but barring the Ulster influx, the progression of others has been painfully slow.

Hayes, Mick O'D, Quinlan...jesus....

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the slow evolution following a shite World Cup suggests that Irish Rugby is lacking real prospects.

O'Sullivan has been picking the same team for four years solid, and nobody outside the core group of 17 or 18 players has got much of a look-in when it comes to competitive matches.

I can see Ireland having an underwhelming championship and O'Sullivan being forced out in April. If he doesn't win four of the five games, he'll be in deep shit.

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Something tells me the exciting group of Ultonian youngsters won't be breaking through this term- given that they can't even avoid bottom place in an uncompetitive Celtic league...
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I agree with Rogin on page 2 - Scotland are a very good outside bet for the championship, given the odds that are available. They have the two toughest opponents at home so they could spring a surprise in one of those matches, and Wales and Ireland both look beatable to me (not that I'm in any way an expert).
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