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Duncan Gardner v8.2
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Farewell to Pollock. Surely Kallis will be remembered as an outstanding all-rounder?
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Kallis will be remembered as outstandingly selfish.
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Kallis is an impossible player to love, from any sort of sporting aesthete standpoint.

The most salient, and depressing, bit of that Guardian piece is the penultimate paragraph.

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Duncan Gardner v8.2
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OK, selfish and unaesthetic. How about 'comparable to Wasim' or 'better than Flintoff'?
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Wasim was a great and inventive fast bowler who could also bat to a reasonable level. Kallis is an very good, effective batsman who sometimes agrees to bowl if the batsman agree to get out. Not the comparison I'd make. If you had to choose one of the pair you'd pick Wasim if you wanted a bowler or Kallis if you wanted a batsman. 'Better than Flintoff' is a pretty easy comparison to make, given Flintoff's duff years.

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Duncan Gardner v8.2
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Aye, that's right. All 200 of those wickets against declaration bowling.

Yes, Flintoff has had injury problems and his batting has declined. But he's still 27 wickets behind JK.

I have to say I'm surprised at this lack of credit.

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As Kallis has bowled 2,500 more deliveries in Test cricket than Flintoff, it is hardly surprising that he has taken a few more wickets.

The problem is not that Kallis isn't a good bowler; he is. The problem is that Kallis isn't interested in playing for anyone other than himself, as demonstrated by his consistently greater apetite for bowling against minnows than genuine Test batsmen, and self-centred batting (most recently vs Australia in the 2007 WC). A thoroughly effective cricketer, yes, and a conteder for a place in most Test sides - this no-one would deny. But he's also an unpleasant, unattractive, selfish player - unlike, say, Pollock, who was quite the opposite and is probably held in higher regard as a consequence.

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Unpleasant? What has Kallis done to you?

I'd also argue about selfishness. That Australia game was an anomaly. He was sent in to protect his wicket after Smith went off hurt and the great start went all pear-shaped.

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He's bored me to tears.

The Australia game was not an anomaly; it was pure Kallis. He is one of the very few batsman of whom it can be legitimately said that he's lost a series by scoring a century, namely his glacial 136* vs England at Centurion in 2005. Now, admittedly, he's not the only South African to lack bottle, but that innings - when SA needed quick runs to give them time to bowl England out and level the series at 2-2 - was excruciating. He took over an hour and a half to make his last 34 runs (that is, from 103*-136*)! He only wants to bowl when there's easy wickets and he only ever bats for himself.

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Surely it is the captain's job to tell Kallis when he wants to bowl. I've not heard of an instance when a captain has told Kallis to bowl at Australians, and Kallis said: "Er, skipper, you know I bowl only against Bangladeshis and England's middle order."

Pollock and Smith tend to use Kallis relatively sparingly and usually not against the top order. He is seen firstly as a batsman, with the bowling being a welcome bonus.

Kallis can be painful to watch at times, but when he is in full swing, he's fantastic to watch. And after being dropped from the 20/Twenty squad, he picked up his scoring rate prodigiously. Perhaps you've not seen enough of Kallis, Raskolnikov.

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Kallis' reluctance to bowl (certainly in the latter stages of his career) is well known. Unfortunately, the speed with which that reluctance disappears when cheap wickets are in the offing (the best example being when faced with a Zimbabwe team and a seaming pitch) is less than creditable.

Kallis took T20 omission as a personal slight and responded amazingly, but it is his omission that is more revealing. He was dropped because, for twelve years, he batted with all the panache of a metronome. He scored 15 centuries between 2001 and 2006 - an awesome achievement - but even after passing 100, he cruised along at 57.5 runs per 100 balls. Stunning.

Compare Kallis' SR and average against Australia (i.e. the best bowling attack) with that of his contemporaries:

code:
Player______Inns__Runs____Avg___SR____AvA*__Diff`
Pietersen____63____3,024__50.4__64.7__53.5___+2.9
Lara________232___11,953__52.3__60.5__61.1___+8.8
Tendulkar___233___11,532__55.4__59.5__55.3___-0.1
Ponting_____190____9,571__58.4__58.9__n/a___n/a
Sangakarra__116____6,032__56.4__56.1__41.9__-14.5
Inzamam_____200____8,830__49.6__54.0__31.4__-18.2
KALLIS______194____9,414__58.1__44.1__38.3__-19.8
*Average vs Australia
`Difference between career and vs Australia

Kallis bats for his average and for himself. It has cost South Africa matches, series, and a shot at the World Cup. He is a great batsman against average bowling, but a less than great batsman against great bowling.

code:
Player______Inns__NO__%
KALLIS______194___32__16.5
Ponting_____190___21__11.1
Inzamam_____200___22__11.0
Tendulkar___233___25__10.7
Sangakarra__116____9___7.8
Pietersen____63____3___4.8
Lara________232____6___2.6

He has scored more Not Out runs (2,227 in 28) than any batsman in the game, excepting Border (2,989 in 44) and S Waugh (3,337 in 46) and he scored more Not Out second innings runs (1,310 in 21) than any batsman but Border (1,842 in 31).

Batsmen usually lose games by getting out. Kallis loses them by staying in: vs England, Centurion, 2005; vs India, Bombay ODI, 2005; vs Australia, Sydney, 2006; vs Australia, WC Semi, 2007 and so on and so forth.

So, no, whatever the problem is, it's not because I haven't seen enough of Kallis. I've seen enough of Kallis to last several lifetimes and I'll happily never watch him crawl to another Not Out again.

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Slamming a batsman for not getting out. Hmmm.
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A typical Kallis performance today, coming in at 514-2 against Bangladesh, he proceeds to score 39* from 120 balls. Does that really serve anything beyond his average?
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Was there a need for him to go out guns blazing, like Smith and McKenzie did the day before (setting a world test record for 1st wicket partnership)? If Kallis really wanted to boost his average, he might have tried to cash in and score a quick 100, surely.
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There was no need to score as if he was trying to save the match on the 5th day, McKenzie and Smith couldn't have given a better platform.

39* boosts his average more than if he'd tried to score at 5 an over and got out for 60. But the latter would have done more for his side.

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