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Etienne
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A friend of mine just pointed me in the direction of a proposal for Wales to break away from the ECB and the England cricket team.

Wales would, like Scotland and Ireland, try and compete in ODI internationals. For tests though, the 3 would join together (as a sort of Celtic West Indies) to compete.

I don't believe that it's something for which there's any realistic possibility, but I'd be interested in how OTF's celtic cricket fans would react to the proposal.

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Duncan Gardner v8.2
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I'd like to see a trial, if the Welsh are up for breaking with England.

Meanwhile, looking forward to watching some cricket at the newly rebuilt Sophia Gardens. I had a look around before the Southern Ireland game in November, before being thrown out by the site security.

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I was reading on cricketeurope that cricket is the fastest growing sport in both Scotland and Ireland. Also that Ireland are the current European champions at every age level from -11 to adult, and that's the first time one nation has ever achieved that distinction.
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Etienne
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Presumably England don't take part in those tournaments then.

It's great news that cricket is growing in popularity in Ireland and Scotland, as I'm sure it is.

Though I'm pretty wary of "fastest growing" claims. They tend to be either highly misleading (Welsh korfball has increased ninefold in size over the last five years making it the fastest growing sport in Wales = there used to be just 1 team, now there are 3 clubs with 3 teams each, and still barely 100 people playing in Wales) or just false.

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Where did you see this proposal, Etienne?
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It was just a Facebook group, I don't think it's even a semi-serious proposal. I was more interested in the concept.
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Etienne
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Mass indifference apparently.

No-one wanting to relive this?

That noted Celt, Kallis, not out of course!

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I suppose regular Celt-England ODIs in Glamorgan might provide a broad enough revenue stream to fund the project, though I don't imagine the top Welsh players would be overly-enamoured with the idea of being unable to play top-level international cricket.
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Not a fan, personally.

Though when I lived in Norfolk, people couldn't understand how I could support the England cricket team quite happily, while at the same time wishing fire and brimstone down on their rugby team, and Ashley Cole.

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Etienne
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Have you seen Glamorgan play recently, Rasko? The top Welsh players are unable to play top-level domestic cricket. I reckon we'd probably lose to a full strength Ireland atm.

Not a Gwenter, that's the conundrum I'm interested in, as I know plenty of people in Wales with similar attitudes. And there's no way they support an England and Wales football team.

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I was thinking in particular of S Jones, if he's ever un-crocked. There's a fairly regular Welsh presence in and around the England side - and even if they are very much the lone star of Welsh cricket, I can't imagine they'd be happy to lose the chance to play Tests for England. Of course, any changes might include seperate eligibility rules for ODIs and Tests, and, frankly, a Celtic team would have as good a chance at the WC as an England one, although they'd probably be paid less.
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I've asked before, is there any other sport where 'England and Wales' ( or 'ENGLAND...and wales' to give it it's proper title) is a recognised entity?

I amnot counting one-off invitiational teams like the rugby team that played the WRU's (or was it the ERFU's ?) centenary.

I think one of the problems I have with following cricket is this whole issue.

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No, I do take the point. And it might arise for James Harris if he keeps developing at his current rate.
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Harry, of course it's been complicated further by the fact that the odd Scot who's been good enough (Denness, Such) has been included too. Not sure about any Irishmen.
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It's odd isn't ?

My mate John is a classical red-bearded, kilt-wearing-every-day, Saltire flying from a flagpost at the end of his garden, Scotsman with a capital 'S'.

And yet he's a fanatical supporter of the England cricket team, despite the fact that he would rather cut off his testicles with a broken bottle than say anything nice about the English football or rugby teams.

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